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Debate: Should ecosocialists oppose population growth?

Discussion in 'FYI' started by Ian Angus, Dec 3, 2017.

  1. Ian Angus

    Ian Angus Guest

    This article has been posted on CLIMATE & CAPITALISM, an ecosocialist journal, reflecting the viewpoint of environmental Marxism.


    In ‘A Redder Shade of Green,’ did Ian Angus unfairly criticize people who believe overpopulation is a major environmental problem?

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  2. Sandra Lindberg

    Sandra Lindberg Moderator

    Discussing this issue is so important. I am glad you've posted both the article and the critique of it. I want to add the ideas of a woman who has been studying this topic for a very long time: Vandana Shiva. In an interview in Yes! Magazine, Shiva observes:

    I would highlight that Shiva is clarifying the destructive effect capitalism has had not only on the planet, but on birth rates: "When you are selling your labor power on an uncertain basis, in an unstable wage market, you know that having ten is better than having five."

    Those usually white and often male folks who believe that simply lowering world population will take care of our problems fail to understand that capitalism's voracious appetite will gnaw at the planet and destroy our ecosystems no matter how many we are.

    System change is the only solution. And it remains essential that any system change include the voices and ideas of those who have studied for too long how to survive under capitalist patriarchy. Women, indigenous populations, people of color, and what I call the wisdom of those labeled by capitalists as "the poor," these are the people who must be a huge part of the world's reinvention.

    You can read the entire Yes! article here: Earth Democracy - an interview with Vandana Shiva
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